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(03-01-2017, 05:30 PM)Santhosh Ram Wrote:dS/dT=k*S....it cannot be true becoz units is not same on both the sides...(03-01-2017, 04:46 PM)sadaf188 Wrote: Plz anyone try ques 49 also its answer is given 100 in answer key...mine is 10000 minutessubstrate concentration 0.1mol/lit is equal to 10 mol/100lit....dS/dT =k * S.... 10-³ * 10 ..... 10-².... which is nothing but 1/100... 100 mins
dS (moles) / dT (min) = k (given moles/min) * S(moles).
03-01-2017, 06:01 PM
(03-01-2017, 05:27 PM)SunilNagpal Wrote:(03-01-2017, 04:46 PM)sadaf188 Wrote: Plz anyone try ques 49 also its answer is given 100 in answer key...mine is 10000 minutesIs the following link addressing the same question?
http://www.biotechnologyforums.com/showt...0#pid11610
If not, could you please post the question(s)?
Or if someone could post the question sheet as well as official answer key?
Nope. Its a different question. Same answer!
(03-01-2017, 06:01 PM)travellingsalesman Wrote:Yes the question is....a zero order kinetics.......(03-01-2017, 05:27 PM)SunilNagpal Wrote: Is the following link addressing the same question?
http://www.biotechnologyforums.com/showt...0#pid11610
If not, could you please post the question(s)?
Or if someone could post the question sheet as well as official answer key?
Nope. Its a different question. Same answer!
If we follow even simple unitary method also then...
1min........10^-3 moles consumed
100min....0.1 moles consumed
Whereas conc of A is 0.1moles/liter....so for 100litre its is 0.1*100=10 moles.
So for 10 moles...10000 min are required
03-01-2017, 06:47 PM
Qno :51
E.corI restriction sites on 10kb dna
I didnt know how can 8kb fragment be generated?? pls explain.
E.corI restriction sites on 10kb dna
I didnt know how can 8kb fragment be generated?? pls explain.
03-01-2017, 07:08 PM
(03-01-2017, 04:45 PM)sadaf188 Wrote:yes it seems to be correct sadaf(03-01-2017, 04:04 PM)masthanbasha Wrote: given condition dy/dx=0,d2y/dx2=0 satisfy when y=1If y = 1 then there is no point of y=f(x)
Which is given in d question.
Wat my solution was y=x^3....this satisfies all d conditions so I calculated y=8 when x=2.
03-01-2017, 07:35 PM
(This post was last modified: 03-01-2017, 07:51 PM by SunilNagpal.)
It was a classical case of zero order kinetics:
Concentration left at any time, t = -kt + Initial concentration
So that, 0 = -kt + 0.1
ie t = 0.1/1000 = 100 mins
The problem with unitary method is very interesting though ( something that will fetch you all some marks on this question).
A zero order reaction can easily be approached using a unitary method (provided the question setter stays alert in keeping all the units in sync). This time they messed with the unit of k (by giving its unit as mol per min) whereas in a zero order reaction, k is supposed to be mol per litre per min or say concentration per minute).
So, it's a mistake at examiner's end in giving wrong units for the reaction constant. Those who used classical formulas got the right answer, but those who were more analytical in this question ended up on the wrong road.
In my view, both the 100 and 10,000 are are right answers in students' perspective, the mistake is at examiner's end.
Concentration left at any time, t = -kt + Initial concentration
So that, 0 = -kt + 0.1
ie t = 0.1/1000 = 100 mins
The problem with unitary method is very interesting though ( something that will fetch you all some marks on this question).
A zero order reaction can easily be approached using a unitary method (provided the question setter stays alert in keeping all the units in sync). This time they messed with the unit of k (by giving its unit as mol per min) whereas in a zero order reaction, k is supposed to be mol per litre per min or say concentration per minute).
So, it's a mistake at examiner's end in giving wrong units for the reaction constant. Those who used classical formulas got the right answer, but those who were more analytical in this question ended up on the wrong road.
In my view, both the 100 and 10,000 are are right answers in students' perspective, the mistake is at examiner's end.
(03-01-2017, 06:09 PM)sadaf188 Wrote:(03-01-2017, 06:01 PM)travellingsalesman Wrote: Nope. Its a different question. Same answer!Yes the question is....a zero order kinetics.......
If we follow even simple unitary method also then...
1min........10^-3 moles consumed
100min....0.1 moles consumed
Whereas conc of A is 0.1moles/liter....so for 100litre its is 0.1*100=10 moles.
So for 10 moles...10000 min are required
03-01-2017, 08:25 PM
(03-01-2017, 05:27 PM)SunilNagpal Wrote:Sir, You can find both the question and answer key from the below link(03-01-2017, 04:46 PM)sadaf188 Wrote: Plz anyone try ques 49 also its answer is given 100 in answer key...mine is 10000 minutesIs the following link addressing the same question?
http://www.biotechnologyforums.com/showt...0#pid11610
If not, could you please post the question(s)?
Or if someone could post the question sheet as well as official answer key?
http://gate.iitr.ernet.in/?page_id=604
03-01-2017, 08:38 PM
can it be challenged?
03-01-2017, 08:49 PM
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